Testimony

June 8, 2020 

A guy we found on Facebook ended up wanting to bash.  We had a few conversations but not any fruit. 

John had a "church" with us Tyler had to cancel cause of an early father's day thing for his dad.

Kind of a testament/ reply I send about scriptures Abinadi was teaching.

It looks like we have a bit different views on the godhead. At first look it looks like Abinadi is teaching that they are one, but they are not. I believe they are separate. Jesus was with God, in the beginning, Jesus Christ helped him create all things. 

The Joseph Smith translation of that verse in John 1:1 Is 

1 In the beginning, was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God. 

We see that the Son existed before he was born as a spirit and God created him. They are referred to as one because they are one in purpose they are focused on bringing us back to him. 

The son came to earth to suffer for our sins and to die on the cross and be resurrected so we could live again. He fulfilled what was prophesied of in the old testament. 

This is shown in Matthew 26: 39-42

39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

In the garden he suffered great pain and in Luke, he describes him even sweating as great drops of blood. 

But verse 42 he asks the father to take this cup or the suffering from him. He wouldn't pray to himself if they were the same person. This is a great sacrifice showing the son a separate being, God's son who fully followed the will of the Father. How powerful that Jesus Christ followed his Father no matter the cost.

He then testifies that they are separate in the book of Mormon in 3 Nephi 11:32 

32 And this is my doctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear record of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the Holy Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and I bear record that the Father commandeth all men, everywhere, to repent and believe in me.

They are separate but work with one purpose 

I know that Jesus Christ is my Savior. He is the Son of God and he is separate from the father. They are individual and work together to bring us unto Christ. I know this because I have prayed and have received a witness. I have come to know the true doctrine of God and have looked for fault in the doctrine and there is none, and if there is it is the weakness of men that has caused it, because God is perfect. The Book of Mormon and the Bible testify of each other and they are the key to my testimony. They are how I know that Joseph Smith is a prophet who truly established Christ's original church with apostles and prophets upon the earth. They are "the fruits" that I know them by.